The game’s vast and atmospheric world will also provide the foundation for a brand new online multiplayer experience. But whats John being doing? Tilly, Grimshaw, and I think Karen were all pretty on edge with Arthur after he kicked out Strauss. [–]ManagerMrGibson 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (1 child). [–]Epicurses Josiah Trelawny 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). At one point, he was robbed by a \"woman\" (implied to be a cross-dresser). I wanted to see what would happen if I appeared as an “unknown suspect”. -Requests have to be clearly said, ideally with the character […] 😂, Moderator, speaking officially. [+]TH0T_PATR0L Lenny Summers comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 2 years ago (4 children), And thats why i think we'll get a mejico dlc with him being the main protagonist, [–]hnglmkrnglbrry 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (2 children). Everybody else had a pretty good reason for their actions, but Javier at the beginning of the game, and Javier at the end of the game and in RDR1 are completely different characters suddenly for seemingly no reason. Discussion is perfectly fine as long as it stays civil. A subreddit dedicated to Red Dead Redemption & Red Dead Redemption 2, developed by Rockstar Games, the creators behind Grand Theft Auto. This subreddit is about a video game; keep political discussion to other, more appropriate subreddits. [–]SusannaBananaRama Abigail Roberts 32 points33 points34 points 2 years ago (1 child). 100 hours in and I didn’t know this was a thing. Don't ask us the specifics, we won't tell you. So when you talk to him in chapter six he says "I dont have anything to say to you Arthur" indicating that hes just as confused by your choice as you are of his, [–]The_Nightman_82 137 points138 points139 points 2 years ago (12 children), Poorly? He's not leading a murderous gang like Bill. ", [–]MaxPaladinAn angry and feck ugly man, but not a bad one 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (4 children). Memes must be submitted only on Mondays and make a genuine attempt at humor. I can only see Javier splitting because of how he responds to Arthur after Strauss. I guess he doesn't really try to change others opinions of him but he's not on Micah's level, [–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (9 children). I believe I got the remake game of the year version, so I was hoping the graphics remained somewhat consistent. [–]GreyMills10 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Info. That one was not only a great story overall like this one, but the twist was so shocking and heart braking it will likely always remain my favorite. Maybe we'll see him again in RDO. Fighting a guerilla war and hijacking army trains could be awesome. Incorrect link flair can often be corrected but may result in the removal of your post. Contact the mod team if you make a mistake. I might just permanently play drunk after this, found a gater roaming around St Denis. Kinda makes your encounter with him as Marston have more meaning when you can view him through what he could have been and what he turned out to be, loyal to Dutch above Arthur and John. Javier Escuella es un personaje secundario principal en ambos Red Dead Redemption juegos, pero el forajido no nació en la frontera estadounidense.Javier era originario de México, y aunque parece que tenía toda la intención de … Final e Historia de RDR2 (Spoilers RDR1 y RDR2) en PlayStation 4 › Juegos (5/17) ... ( john, abigail arthur y charles VS dutch, MIKA, JAVIER , escuella ) el resto huyen ( recurso facil) o mueren He was loyal because he had no other options and because honest work wasn't really his forte. Javier was a revolutionary in Mexico, and I think he sees Dutch as a fellow revolutionary and mentor, [–]CL60[S] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (1 child). Everyone still must use spoiler syntax, but those who browse on mobile web or non-official reddit apps be aware. In the epilogue Micah says that They have just met and joined forces again, and if You ask Dutch what He is doing there, He says "Same as You i suppose", so in other words we can assume, that He came there to kill Micah too, probably wanted to play a long game, but given the circumstances wasn't really able to do so. [–]Doctordarkspawn 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child). ... Javier Escuella, proves himself to be a poor outlaw without his buddies. [–]Funkystuff27 19 points20 points21 points 2 years ago (0 children). [–]Nexusgamer64 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). If you believe a question relating to RDR will take a more detailed explanation that cannot be asked or answered in a short comment, then submitting such a question is allowed as its own post. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Although you seem to spend all your time together the more time passes, neither of you seems willing to risk anything beyond flirtation. [–]Shields_Activated 126 points127 points128 points 2 years ago (1 child). All the people huntin' n' fishin' in chapter 2.. [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children). Link to official sources such as R*'s official website or social medias. He like Dutch seem like reasonable nice men and he is so good at it he's even charmed you into thinking he "changed out of nowhere". I mean, he's a hitman for Allende in RDR1. All meme content will be removed on every day of the week. John mentions in RDR1 that Javier went crazy because he took Dutch's downfall the hardest. They both laughed, and Dutch fed and clothed Javier, offering him a spot in the Van der Linde gang. [–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (1 child). drawing, boredom, fanarts. I mean, that's so beautiful! Revealing spoilers of other major releases, such as TLOU2, will also not be tolerated and may result in a ban. Not to mention he built Beecher's Hope from freaking scratch, when I had always assumed he just stolen it from someone lol. He's surley, he's hateful, he's even notorious for it with his care for his horse being the point that sticks out. (. [–]TH0T_PATR0L Lenny Summers 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). You didn't really get much of his personality in the original, but he's possibly my favorite character in RDR2. Hes only known the outlaws life, except he doesnt have a family to try and make it all worthwhile. He's not running with a gang of outlaws, but he hardly turned over a new leaf. [–]MaxPaladinAn angry and feck ugly man, but not a bad one 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (7 children). Incorrect link flair can often be corrected but may result in the removal of your post. Williamson was a drunk and a idiot before dutches gang went sideways. Javier didn't see that as much, which gave him more of an opportunity to still have blind loyalty towards Dutch. Videos or spam, intrusive or obvious fluff content will be removed. Il tue finalement un ancien militaire suite à une histoire d'amour. It's like not even the writers could figure out a good enough reason that he'd have been one of the people we had to hunt down in RDR1... so they just left his character blank and hoped we'd forget about him or something. But what exactly was going on? Javier felt an immediate affinity with the gang and its ideals. He wasn’t developed at all. And sure they didn’t change as characters, but they don’t necessarily have to. I barely saw him at camp. However, this does not mean things like insults and personal attacks are allowed. [–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (4 children). [–]corrawin 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), Lol no chance we will get any single player dlc with their efforts focused on online, [–]Funkystuff27 57 points58 points59 points 2 years ago (5 children). He was abusive and an asshole, and we see that in RDR2. Craignant que ses proches ne souffrent de son geste, il finit par fuir en direction de l'Amérique. I will say though the RDR 1 version of Javier is almost like a completely different guy down to his mannerisms and speech lol. [–]RemoveNull Lenny Summers 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (0 children). Guidelines for Requests -Online Requests Are Once Again Open! According to John, his father was possibly her pimp. Thieves Landing in RDR2 is basically nothing, but in RDR1 its a fully working town with a saloon, a tailor, a gunsmith, a general store and even a safehouse you can buy. En 1911, es extorsionado por el agente del Bureau Edgar Ross, con el fin de que ayude a las autoridades a dar caza a los cabecillas de su antigua banda, Javier incluido. Comment spoiler syntax DOES NOT work for some mobile users. [–]Brainycoolfire1 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). They've shown they can reuse the old RDR1 map, R* may have just needed more time and it wasn't ready or important for launch, so it could come later without too much additional work. I think he was shown perfectly in RDR2. For me I interpreted these interactions to suggest. In that blank period, a few gang members had things going on. I feel the same way. One day in 1894, he tried to rob … All we get is a few lines about loyalty and him sulking around Beaver Hollow like a moody teenager, not speaking to Arthur. I find myself wondering if something could have been done to have Javier be supportive towards Arthur and John as say... Charles and Sadie. // Spitzer-FX @ PSN. En 1895, alors qu'il t… A dlc showing him post-Dutch as not a bad guy, but neither a good guy would be interesting. Western props on unrelated medias (cowboy hat on "pic"). He was a perfect minion. You're only hearing their side of the story. PC/Console elitism is not welcome in this subreddit. I get why he leaves Mexico and why he follows Dutch in the first place, but I don't understand how he can fail to see what's going down? Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Him being a simple and even likeable member of a gang shows exactly how surreal it was for John to hunt his former associates. Me talking about RDR1 Javier. Fearing for his greedy life, Javier fled to America. How would Javier know John's daughter if she was born after 1907? It works from a story perspective and I think fits from a narrative perspective. Whereas Javier just kept right on being an outlaw. Yeah, I think they wish they could ret con that javiers character was played by Micah in rdr1, and Javier dies in RDR2. Image macros, overused generic meme formats and low effort/common in game screenshots will be removed. I agree with you for sure I wish he got more "screen time" to develop and it wasn't impressive considering he's one of the main targets in RDR 1. You know what, even the original red dead has really good graphics. [–]Epsifive 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children), Javier and Bills character arcs were very subtle and I felt like R* wanted it that way. Hes working for the Mexican government how is he an outlaw? The turn to abusive coward is somewhat logical. So technically he's not an outlaw, but let's be real, we're dealing in semantics here. Javier, Bill, Dutch, John, Abigail. However, this does not mean things like insults and personal attacks are allowed. Arthur was just as loyal as Javier up until the events that occur in game, and stated as much. Unlike Dutch and Bill, Javier isn't even part of a gang, let alone having one under his command. Reaction type images such as "DAE", "That felling when", "When you", or similar falls under the category of a meme and maybe removed if not properly posted during the corresponding period of Meme Monday.. In-game screenshots being posted here must not be crappy cellphone pictures. Dude spent fifteen yeeaaarrss with his head full of Dutch's bullshit from the time he was like 11 years old, and was still able to claw his way out of the outlaw life. Failure to follow these rules will result in posts or comments being removed, and may result in bans, the length of which to be determined by the nature of the infraction. SpoilerPlay RDR2 before RDR1? [–]rooster1739 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]Orto_Dogge Bill Williamson 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (2 children). Breaking with Dutch down the line could have been the loss of faith that lead him to cynically take a job working for Allende. [–]urk1310 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). But as RDR2 made it so clear, Dutch’s old gang disbanded and thats why you have to hunt them all down in RDR1. At the end he sided with Dutch but at the end of the epilogue he isn’t with them, did he leave what happened, I don’t get it. [–]Cherylstunt 44 points45 points46 points 2 years ago (0 children). [–]corrawin 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children), I think Bill gets a bad rap honestly, yeah he's a surly bastard and isn't the sharpest tool in the camp, but everyone does tend to treat him like shit or belittle him even for the most minor accident that I can understand why he has a grudge against everyone. Everyone still must use spoiler syntax, but those who browse on mobile web or non-official reddit apps be aware. If you are submitting a meme: unless the image is directly related to Red Dead Redemption, it must be separable from your title and still remain funny. You thought the red dead one story was better? John Marston was born in 1873. He lived rough for the next two years or so, drinking heavily and robbing people on the highway. Overused meme formats/macros, unoriginal or memes that cannot stand on their own in reference to RDR will be removed. With that being said, the first one has a better story and more fulfilling characters. Sharing OC is strongly encouraged, and with OC often comes self-promotion. Even during the first mission you do with him, he's making excuses for Dutch's murder of Heidi McCourt (which, judging by the way everyone talks about it in-universe, was fucking horrific and unjustifiable) so regardless of how chill he seemed in the early chapters, there were definitely red flags. [–]JustYeeHaa 29 points30 points31 points 2 years ago (2 children). [–]Jamie_4797 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). [–]FallenSilence83 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). He showed up for literally one mission, and didn't really do anything to advance the plot; he was just an excuse to chase Bill into Mexico. I do think some Charles DLC could happen. John, Sadie, Charles, and Arthur all saw first hand what Dutch was doing outside of camp while on missions. If you believe a question relating to RDR will take a more detailed explanation that cannot be asked or answered in a short comment, then submitting such a question is allowed as its own post. This was one of the reasons John ran away from the gang. What Happened Between RDR2 and Red Dead Redemption. Javier is one of those dudes who seem like such a great guy but when the crap hits the fan you see who's side he's really on. Overdone or Low effort/quality art maybe removed. Websites with excessive ads, agenda-pushing, misleading content or links, etc. Heidi McCourt was a young woman who was murdered via a gunshot wound to the head some time during the Blackwater Massacre by Dutch van der Linde. Adding another character arc which would have put RDR2 in danger of being bogged down with too many character conflicts/interests. Of course there's John and Dutch, but there's also Bill and Javier. Okay, fine, he murders people extrajudicially with the tacit approval of a brazenly corrupt provincial governor. I mean, that's so beautiful! From the looks of it the majority of the gang splintered off. Javier was loyal to Dutch and shared the same goals. He seemed wasted. 100 hours in and I didn’t know this was a thing. You accept Bill's siding with Dutch because you don't like his personality but you think that for Javier to develop well that we have to see through his charms, but he has always stated loyalty to Dutch. He sounded like he'd never doubt Dutch. Le père de Javier était un homme porté sur la boisson qui travaillait sur les terres de son frère. Really good point. For all he knew, Dutch could have refused to leave the island until he was safe. Pese a que John decide abandonar la vida criminal y trabajar como granjero junto a su esposa e hijo, el pasado regresa a sus vidas. He is a simple and loyal guy, the only reason you hunt him down in RDR1 is because he was a member of a gang, not because he's some kind of terrible villain. I recommend playing RDR first, [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). View Entire Discussion (9 … I wasn't fussed on him in the first game, but he was one of my favourites in this. But as it turns out, he'd only been with Dutch for a few years by 1899, and he stayed with him anyway. Exactly. I seriously love that this game produces responses like this. This will be considered a serious offense and will result in a permanent ban from the subreddit. Tbh playing Red Dead 2 made me lose some sympathy for Javier. Javier is such an individual. Había una buena razón por la que Javier Escuella de Red Dead Redemption huyó de México antes de los eventos del juego, y debería haberse quedado. (. Inicialme… I think Javier suffered from being an early focal point and then sort of fading into the background of those loyal to Dutch. But I feel like your perspective is what the real intention of the developers was. [–]Cherylstunt 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (3 children). We ask that you take care to participate in the community beyond self-promotion. He allways had the leanings. Fb reminded me that 2 years ago I made this fanart of Arthur Morgan. After thinking about it, my head canon is that him not being as involved in missions in the later part made it so he literally didn't see what was really going on. Red Dead Redemption 2 is an epic tale of life in America’s unforgiving heartland. [–]Lord_stinko Uncle 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children). She has been described as an innocent, defenseless civilian who happened to be present on the ferry at Blackwater during the heist that was carried out by the Van der Linde gang. Overdone or Low effort/quality art maybe removed. I always forget that Javier and Bill weren't even a part of Dutch's gang in RDR 1. At the beginning of the game Javier seemed like somebody who would have sided with Arthur by the end, but there is no explanation as to why his character changed so quickly. Until you realize they were never that genuine person you believed them to be. [–]Orto_Dogge Bill Williamson 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (1 child). I guess all Javier sees is Dutch saving him in Guarma rather than him leaving Arthur to fend for himself when he's been kidnapped and abandoning John twice. You have like two missions with him in the beginning then that fishing mission. Due to the nature of Red Dead Redemption and its M-rating, M-rated language and content is allowed, within reason. Javier Escuellawitnessed her death, and later said that Dutch killed her in a "bad way", but ad… This is not the place for heated console debates. Yes, rdr2 is a prequel to 1. Don't blame the writers, the answer was literally in front of your (or his) face the whole time. Bill and Javier, the two only minorly featured in RDR1 as antagonists really did get the least development, but when you look at it, they didn't really need it. I argue that this is actually a case of deep story telling using the show-not-tell method. Dutch valiantly burst into Fussar’s plantation to save his fallen comrade from execution. I would have liked another interaction or two between him and Arthur before they fully turned on each other, but on the other hand, I think it was sort of intentional that they didn't get one; towards the end, Dutch started gathering his die-hard supporters (Micah, Bill, and Javier) closer, and gradually cutting Arthur out of the loop. Spoiler[SPOILERS] Anybody feel like Javier was developed really poorly? An angry and feck ugly man, but not a bad one. [–]PageGallagher15 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children), Yes not really a spoiler but the main character in the 1st one is younger in the 2nd, [–]AceofKnaves246 Arthur Morgan 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children), Probably play RDR first, but either option could work, [–]DR_D3TH Javier Escuella 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children), That's true but like one person said you're better off playing RDR before playing RDR2, [–]uncreativepng 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]cleetorres024 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children), Honestly playing the second one first will make the first one pretty much unplayable, just because the graphics and mechanics are so unbelievable in RDR2. But I still got the general idea behind his motivations. I think the thing you are missing is that Javier's biggest trait is his charm. Rendered by PID 22504 on r2-app-0c7fc48eab1183dbd at 2021-01-07 23:32:31.772938+00:00 running 96e82f4 country code: GB. John was then raised in an orphanag… Discussion is perfectly fine as long as it stays civil. [–]dcmontreaux 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). John's father died in 1881, when John was only 8 years old. His father was a Scottish immigrant who was born in a boat to America, and his mother was a prostitute who died during childbirth. It's even harder to think about what happened during RDR1 knowing how close the gang was before the falling out at the end. Users who actively engage themselves in the subreddit and make the occasional self-promotional post will be approved. He doesn't even fight you, he just runs. I thought it was a bit odd too. Jamarillo was replaced by Gabriel Sloyer, an American actor, in Red Dead Redemption 2. The way I see it, might as well be you. <3 gotta agree Javier is one of my favorite gang members for sure. It makes sense that Javier grew cold toward Arthur after Dutch stopped trusting him. A/N: Before we get started, I wanted to warn my readers that my story will include … Javier was loyal to a fault, going down with the ship. There was no build up at all to his character change, he just flipped suddenly into an entirely different person. This is not the place for heated console debates. Yep, sometimes when I'd greet Javier around camp Arthur would say "I think you might be be the most loyal of the bunch." Sloyer previously provided voice work for a character in Grand Theft Auto 5. But yea his sudden change of personality is just lazy writing. [SPOILERS] Anybody feel like Javier was developed really poorly? Stricly mercenary. Idk how they would even explain how a chill dude would become a slimy caricature . Link to official sources such as R*'s official website or social medias. Due to the nature of Red Dead Redemption and its M-rating, M-rated language and content is allowed, within reason. And during Guarma when you rescued him he was really happy of it, and then he just becomes evil out of nowhere and i was like, why? Other than seeing antagonists, or end goals, I'll see my former friends and family. [–]MaxPaladinAn angry and feck ugly man, but not a bad one 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). I kept forgetting he existed. Other members of the gang simply didn't have the push required to see things more clearly. [–]rowerine Charles Smith 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children), At Beaver Hollow he repeatedly lectured anyone to stay loyal and to have faith in Dutch. Yeah I feel like they really dropped the ball with Javier. I’m a little bit late to this, but I think what clinched Javier’s loyalty to Dutch happened in Guarma. On top of that those of us who played that one … Reaction type images such as "DAE", "That felling when", "When you", or similar falls under the category of a meme and maybe removed if not properly posted during the corresponding period of Meme Monday.. In-game screenshots being posted here must not be crappy cellphone pictures. Playing RDR1 after RDR2 would be so goddamn awful, because it's dated. He still hangs with the gang, he's still a professional, he's deeply loyal to dutch after being saved on Guarma, but when the gang breaks up it's also logical that he goes his seperate ways and goes back to Mexico as a hired gun. Even Molly had a better arc than Javier. I think Charles is more likely if we get any DLC with a new character. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Seul problème, Javier ne parle pas Anglais et devient petit à petit faible et affamé. That all mentioned, onto the rules! They were practically the same characters personality wise in the transition from 2 to 1. I was really expecting the power struggle with Micah to include a wild card Javier who like kills Karens or Pearson but then nothing happened he's basically sidelined for chapter 6. I feel like he was just defined by his "loyalty" the gang was important to him and Dutch's philosophy was important to him. I honestly can't wait to play RDR1 again so I can see that different feeling. Most Loyal of the lot of us RDR2 Blog dedicated to crying over the beauty that is Javier Escuella. I'll take a Mexico dlc with Javier as the protagonist. He's absolutely wonderful, and it makes sense that you can spare him in RDR1. I think he was shown perfectly in RDR2. They say so several times in both RDR1 and RDR2 Abigail was a whore the gang picked up. Not like Arthur or John. Arthur is the most important but each character got what they needed to stand as supporting roles to one of the best characters in recent memory. 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